Clay Shirky vs Malcolm Gladwell
The Freedom Driving Mass Amateurization
Throughout “Here Comes Everybody”, Clay Shirky expresses the positivity and possibilities of this new technological era. Gathering and spreading information is a benefit we may take advantage of at some points. Yet the easier it is to speak freely and spread ideas, the easier it is to spread freedom and knowledge. Shirky believes social networks and technology can be used as political tools as well. “Any tool that improves shared awareness or group coordination can be used for political means because it is freedom.” In chapters five and seven, Clay stresses the importance of coordination and the use the cyber community to form peace meetings and protests. He talks of protests in Germany and recent government and power changes from the use of social networks and group gathering. Social change can progress if the use of technology is used correctly. Management or the lack of it, is also a concept Shirky implements in his writing. With “flexibility of roles,” more work can be accomplished. Spontaneous division of labor with small groups can now accomplish what larger groups with additional oversight can. Overall, technology is a positive force for the ambitious author. It is a social, political and diverse tool we should continue to work with.
In “Small Change” Malcolm Gladwell discusses the power of pure human communication. He believes the excessive use of technology is a mere way to tie loose ends together. “The platforms of social media are built around weak ties.” With a strong sense of right, he discusses the civil rights movement in North Carolina. In the 1960’s 4 college students sit in Greensboro and fought for racial segregation and human rights. Gladwell makes a point here where he states that none of these political uprisings could have happened with the help of technology. At this point in American history the true commitment and power of word gave the hundreds of protesters the strength to change social rights. In this situation, i feel Shirky would state the protests could have been more efficient with the use of technology. With better organizing and planning of dangerous ambushes, the civil rights movement could have been resolved quicker and possibly less costly.”But it is simply a form of organizing which favors the weak-tie connections that give us access to information over the strong-tie connections that actually help us preserver in times of danger.” Malcolm believes Clay Shirky over emphasizes the positives of technology and argues the integrity of the bonds and habits of technological networking and evolution. Small changes, signifies the lack of progress Malcolm finds with our next generation. Without true social interaction and eye to eye conversations with people how can we as people change the future?
Matthew Scrip: Chapters 5,7 and Malcolm Gladwell’s article
-What concepts and ideas does Shirky introduce in Chapter 5 and chapter 7?
In Chapter 5: Shirkys refers to “Wikipedia” as an example of the most famous “distributed collaboration,” as well as one the most visited website in the world. Shirky goes explains how wikipedia proves to be successful by its abilities to be edited by “normal” people. Depicting Shirky’s main idea of how anyone can be an author/editor without a printing press. As well as how wikipedia is a perfect example of the shift from the standard higher-archey institutions. Wikipedia has no “professional” editors or employees. Its run simply of normal people who find editing their various pages to be a way of exercising un-used mental capacities or “Kilroy was here” the simple pleasure of changing something in the world. The motives people have to edit wikipedia and in turn keeping the site up to date ties closely with Mass-ameturization: “Refers to capabilities that new forms of media have given to nonprofessionals and the ways in which those non-professionals have applied those capabilities in order to create and distribute content and solve problems in ways that compete with larger, professional institutions.”
In Chapter 7: Shirky provides many examples of how fast groups can be formed and the power those groups have when formed. “Collective action is different from individual action, both harder to get going and both harder to stop.” Groups create a different force then individuals therefore allowing the groups purpose or goal to be accomplished easier. “Similar case in the story of Evan and the stolen sidekick.” Evan acquired all of those followers leading to the arrest and return of his friends phone.
-How do these chapters support his overall main idea?
In chapter 5 and 7 Shirky proposes how WIkipedia is so successful with no higher-archey management as well as how the “new age” editors apply mass-ameturization to keep wikipedia up to date. He compares how wikipedia is run to how a modern day car company would run. With wikipedias staff being amateur editors choosing when and where and what they like to work on. A modern day car company would collapse in weeks.
In Chapter 7 he gives many example on how fast groups can form and many tools they use to day in order to do so. When the large groups are formed they are much more effective then a single individual. He uses eastern germany in 1989 as an example of rebelling against the corrupt GDR When the protesting group grew as large as 600,000 even GDR’s army was not willing to fight them off, knowing deadly force would have been the only way to do so. GDR collapses as does the Berlin Wall.
-What is Gladwells overall argument? What Concepts and idea’s does he present? Name a specific story or example Gladwell uses to support his argument? Where do both authors agree or disagree?
Similar to Shirky. Gladwell introduces further example of the powers of large groups. The first example he uses in the four african-American students in the 1960’s who are denied coffee in a shop due to the lack of human rights in that time period. The group quickly grows massive sit-ins are being held all over the south in a large protest for equal rights. Another example Gladwell use’s is the story of Sameer Bhatia a young girl in desperate need of a bone marrow transplant. Similar to the stolen side kick they begin to publicize her story on various blog sites, her story spreads like wild fire. She gets her much needed transplant due to the large group and the effectiveness of them. Shirky and Gladwell share common opinions of wikipedia and its effectiveness without the standard higher-archey of management.
Clay Shirky vs. Malcolm Gladwell
What concepts and ideas does Shirky Introduce in Chapter 5 and Chapter 7?
In chapter 5, Shirky introduces the concept of self blogging online. He uses Wikipedia as an example of amateur bloggers feeding the website information based on what they know, their opinions or their social view on any relative topic. Although many people sees social media as a form of entertainment, Shirky believes that this new technology can be used to coordinate political views to attract the attention of society. By using all the social networks that are popular today as a campaign for voluntary work, foundations, or simply networking can make it easier for us to convey to a drastic social change. Amateurs are given vast opportunities to voice out their opinions due to the availability of social media. The isn’t a huge corporation behind Wikipedia constantly monitoring the website trying to edit all entries to their own desire; it is ran by those who have connections and access into the site. Even wordpress can have many authors in one page, having a bulletin like blog with many people posting their assignments. The “non-professionals have applied [their] capabilities in order to create and distribute content” upon many websites today.
In chapter 7 however gives the dynamics of how well and fast people can mash together upon a similar ground. Social media grabs the attention of people, making them aware of what is going on around them, voicing them out to many more to create a group that follows the topic. It was easy for Ivanna to retrieve her phone because Evan had created a website about it. His strong opinion and story about Sasha (the new owner of the phone) attracted many people and followed his story, with each new follower giving him many information they accumulated on their own for his benefit. Networking through other people made it easy to find the phone, who has it, how it was being used and also search up information about its new owner.
How do these chapters support his overall main ideas? Name a specific story Shirky uses to support his argument.
Shirky proposes that social media works well because their is no “hierarchy” dictating what can be used or posted. Social media is a form of the opinion of society, merely because it’s within our freedom to freely post what we want. Shirky’s Wikipedia example is the perfect way to expose the many ways social media can be manipulated into creating change. If we knew how to use social media to voice us out, there are many political parties that can hear us and we can make a greater impact upon our government.
What is Gladwell’s overall argument? What concepts and ideas does he present? Name a specific story or example Gladwell uses to support his argument? Where do Shirky and Gladwell agree and disagree?
Gladwell and Shirky had the same thoughts about social networking. Although Gladwell uses social networking in a different era where the latest trend was to be rumored around by flocking “little birds’ rather than twitter, it still had the same concept of spreading the news around. Whether its fighting for equality, asking for bone marrow donations, or finding a phone, all was successful through grabbing large groups’ attentions. Shirky and Gladwell would both agree because social networking gave them the same outcome and change that they were searching.
C H . 5
In this chapter, Shirky informs about Wikipedia. He tells us how it got started and how it’s been able to retain its success. Also how it differs from the initial Nupedia. They are almost entirely the same, except with Nupedia, other people weren’t able to edit and vandalize the site. It was very protected. As for Wikipedia allows all other readers to put their two cents in and publish whatever it is that comes to their minds—as ignorant as it may be. What Wikipedia was able to do that Nupedia couldn’t was become an online, growing encyclopedia enabling all users to freely use keeping the aspect of commercialism.
C H . 7
Shirky discusses how when something is done collectively, it is more effective. Sites like Facebook and Twitters users to be connected and stay informed with one another.
Response: Clay Shirky VS. Gladwell
What concepts and ideas does Shirky Introduce in Chapter 5 and Chapter 7?
response: In Chapter 5 Shirky introduces the the topic of ditribution of collaboration. He expressed this idea through the example of what is now the most visited website in the world wikipedia. Using this example he expands on the thought that just anyone can use technology to spread there words or beliefs through various means in technology. Anybody can be a publisher anywhere and anytime with the use of mainly website or technology, nobody needs a printing press to be as such. Shirky uses wikipedia as an example of how editors and publishers can now be just anybody with the access to technology whereas back in the day one would have various means to be as such. Wikipedia I can literally say is “By” and “For”. I say this because wikipedia is editable by merely anyone who’s on it. This is shown throught the “edit” tool on the right of each subject or bold faced word on the site.
In chapter 7: The heading “Two Heads is better then one” is true in this chapter since this chapter mainly discusses the topic of groups and how groups can form and get tasks done more easily and quickly. Groups be formed easily with the use of the internet with just a simple topic. Topics attract attention and therefore groups related or interested in said topic.
How do these chapters support his overall main ideas? Name a specific story Shirky uses to support his argument. Then, compare to Gladwell.
response: There both related to the topics of the ease publishing through the simple acces of the internet. A specific story that Shirky uses to support his topic is the 1st chapter “It takes a village to find a phone”. Gladwells story is relatable to Shirky’s story In Ch.1 of “Here comes everybody” in the way that anybody can attract people from anywhere with a little simple “chaos”(chaos meaning unsual or out of the ordinary but interesting).
What is Gladwell’s overall argument? What concepts and ideas does he present?
response: Gladwell’s overall idea I believe is what he states on the from page (clich’e but true in my belief) of his article which is “Social Media cant provide what social change has always required”. Concepts and ideas that Gladwell I believe represented in his article is the gathering of people through social media or technology use along with cooperation and coordination between various groups or people.
Name a specific story or example Gladwell uses to support his argument? Where do Shirky and Gladwell agree and disagree?
response: The overall topic in Gladwell’s article would be an example of a specific story used to support his argument. I belive Shirky and Gladwell connect on the points of human communications and cooperation but not on the topic of the use of technologu to support that following along with coordination.
Clay Shirky and Malcolm Gladwell
Society is deviating away from ” rigid institutional structures” and this is possible because of social networking. Cooperate hierarchy, and “financial motivation” no longer impasse communities. The study of these communities of social networking and how social media drives social change is documented by Clay Shirky and Malcolm Gladwell .
Both Clay Shirky and Malcolm Gladwell point out that social media is not a hierarchical organization. Social Media is run by mass amateurization rather then a chain of commands. Gladwell compares Social Media to Atavism, and brings up supporting examples of how Social media has accomplished similar results as highly organized atavist societies who sometimes have had to go to extreme and even radical measures to influence change.
Wile Shirky Compares Social media to hierarchical institutions; and, pointing out that although social media has the opposite structure from an traditional institution, it is driven by motivation of individuals, and is still very efficient and even more productive. Using Wikipedia as an example to show similarities between traditional institutions, and Social Media.
It is interesting to compare the opinions of both writers because they are looking at the progress of networking from two different angles; yet, still have very similar idea’s regarding the structure of social media and the capabilities.
The argument is to what extreme social media has either progressed the art of group organization or simply changed the way we communicate. Given that hierarchical institutions are going to remain organized, and in some forms Mass amateurization can also be organised.
Malcolm Gladwell points out in Small Change that society has been capable of group organization in past event’s. The invention of social media has only provided a different way of communicating. There seems to be a collective of opinions assuming that the social media has created this new form of heroism in regards to groups forming to omit change; whereas, Malcolm points out several instances in history where the social media was either not invented, or still in evolution that organized groups have changed history. It is recognised that whether it is a social media organization, or an organization of citizens, there is likely to be a hierarchy of some form in place. I say this because there are active members, and then there are the members who later join the organization or do not always participate in group activity. Clay Shirky makes this connection in chapter five of Here Comes EveryBody; Malcolm Gladwell makes this connection in the article Small Change when he addresses the study of Doug Mcadam.
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